What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. His favorite rattle, shaped like a phone, lay near the crime scene. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Its never been made clear. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Andrew Tates legal team has claimed he has a tumour as the detained influencer faces another month in a Romanian prison. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. she didnt need to . Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! The couple moved into Andrews sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! I was able to email with Patricia via the PrisonConnect platform around Christmastime. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. Go somewhere else where your asserted expertise will be professionally tested and you wont be so frustrated and insulting about those who disagree (with your expertise and opinion). After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. Not sure why anyone is defending her. It seems so, according to you. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. It was just assumed to be crib death. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Media galore. Look into it. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. So would judge and jury say. . 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. Have you read the book? This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Chambers also didn't want to speak about her daughter. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Sad discovery. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Anyone who thinks this psycho isnt guilty needs to take off their tin hat. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. Andrew described his existence with Joanne and Alex as a little Camelot., Ex-spouse off list. Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). It was Patricias hair no question. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. She had money put aside. Too many people testified as to the type of person she was. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Nope. Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. I dont even know its Christmas.. It all gave jurors a lot to think about but only for six hours. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). "His wish is to attend a prearranged consultation in Dubai . The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. Now, there are suggestions the family's solution to Andrew potentially losing his home could be to move him into the 'nest egg' Fergie purchased as an investment for their daughters, Princess Beatrice, 34, and Princess Eugenie, 32. 6 people named Andrew Katrinak found in Colorado, Pennsylvania and 3 other states. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. At the trial, prosecutor Michael McIntyre alleged that Patricia remained obsessed with Andrew Katrinak long after their breakup despite testimony that shed had many boyfriends and live-in lovers to occupy her bandwidth. Tragedy also touched Patricias life. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. Those bodies would have been manipulated by something around there. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. The Duke of York is set to lose 250,000-a-year in funding from the King as part of a shake-up of private royal finances and has had to sell off assets including a 19million ski chalet to cover the costs of settling the sex scandal case with Virginia Roberts Giuffre - a victim of Jeffrey Epstein. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. She and Andrew Katrinak shared a house in Salisbury Township in the mid-1980s, when he was a self-employed contractor and she was a real-estate agent. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. No explanation given. The District Attorney got this one right. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. Andrew Katrinak in Colorado. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. She definitely did it. What a contrived case! Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. Flaw in reasoning. What evidence is there she actually left the state? A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. You people are fighting a losing cause! We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. Katrinak said he is waiting to hear from his 26-year-old wife,. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? Police need evidence of perpetration in every claimed case, and Sells is regarded as lying about some claimed murders per inability or unwillingness to detail. She was the one that left Andy! They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Personal details about Andrew include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as unknown. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. Whatever the truth is. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? ``She was real good with kids, good to mine at least,' Jost said. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? ``They let 'em know who's boss.'. Lived In Drake CO . The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. Crying and distraught, she asked him to get in touch with her boyfriend, Ward and ask him to bring her extra underwear and socks. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? I expect she will admit it one day. (renews at {{format_dollars}}{{start_price}}{{format_cents}}/month + tax). Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. But none of those charges ever stuck. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Puny policy. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they broke up in 1989. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. As Prince Harry says he felt like the film 'the boy in the bubble' before having therapy, who was 12-year-old David Vetter whose tragic story inspired the documentary? But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. And the obvious answer is that the makers too think the evidence is against her. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged in, Please refresh your browser to be logged in, Isabel Oakeshott terminates interview after clashing with presenter over Hancock leak. Andrew Katrinak told police he refused to speak to her, and Joann Katrinak warned Rorrer not to call back. Sometimes Teresa goes by various nicknames including Teresa Jean Katrinak, Teresa J Benchini, Teresa J Benckini and Teresa J Katrinak. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. Clearly, there are a lot of irrational people out there. On Wednesday morning, sheriff's deputies escorted Rorrer to meet with Fritz. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. Dial-a-problem. Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Myers knew little about Rorrer's troubles. He lived in 1928, at address, Connecticut. Above, we have another whos totally clueless, has little or no knowledge of this case, but is happy to display his/her ignorance with a rant based on limited knowledge learned from biased documentaries who thinks that by using offensive and insulting language itll influence those who support Rorrer into changing their opinions. He retired as a general foreman at Bethlehem Steel in 1981 after 30 years of employment. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. I really never thought of it again.. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Counsel for Patricia Rorrer, 52, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, WFMZ-TV 69 reports. Davidson County Sheriff's deputies helped with interviews, gathering evidence and checking alibis. Even though Joanne was supposed to take her mother-in-law for Christmas shopping, she never showed up. The only record of a call from Patricia to the Katrinak household was on 12/7/94. Did you personally attend the trial? THE COPS SET HER UP. ", The much-faster-than-expected economic recovery thats followed the easing of the coronavirus pandemic has produced several encouraging develo. Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? ANDREW Tate has complained "they won't let me leave" in another whinge from prison after claiming he is suffering from a "serious health condition". Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. This woman was obsessed and jealous. Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. On December 12, 1994, Joann answered a phone call from a woman shed never met, Patricia Rorrer, her husbands onetime girlfriend. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. According to a Morning Call account from March 5, 1998: McIntyre leaned forward conspiratorially like someone trying to persuade another to tell a secret, lowered his voice and said: Heres what I want to know: After you killed Joann Katrinak, did you kill that baby or just leave it to die?. Court records show she is incarcerated in the Lehigh County Jail. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. 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They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Bookmark. Why? Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. In 1993, Katrinak married Joann Marie Katrinak and the couple had a son, Alex, the next year. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. Great communicator. 10:02, 3 Mar 2023; Updated 10:31, 3 Mar 2023; Controversial influencer Andrew Tate's medical . About a year ago, Rorrer told Myers about the investigation but said she had been framed. They added that the King is in disagreement with his brother and 'has told him straight, there is no chance of that happening'. No show. Any true crime fan should know the crazy history of these magic boxes. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. ``This woman was a possible double murderer, so we had to protect the people out there,' Hege said. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. If you purchase a product or register for an account through one of the links on our site, we may receive compensation. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? A Patent Pending People Search Process. This woman killed and is where she belongs! No charmed life. Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Am I missing something? And Patricia wasnt all edges. Cop defends accused. So, lets take your response one step at a time. You are absolutely right. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. Find 4 people named Andrew Katrinak along with free Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok profiles on PeekYou - true people search. The Free Patricia Rorrer page points to a sliver of a fingernail found at the murder site that didnt come from either Patricia or Joann. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Discover address history, phone, age and more. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Copyright 2023 PeekYou.com. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. I cant lose them, he told the media. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. Name. Sign up for our newsletter to keep reading. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. At 4 a.m. Wednesday morning, several dozen of Rorrer's relatives and friends surrounded the courthouse, said Capt. When Joann Katrinak and the baby didn't show up for a planned afternoon of Christmas shopping on Dec. 15, Katrinak called the police. Nailed? Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? Wow. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. Tate has a dark spot on his lung, most likely a tumour, a spokesperson told Mail Online. Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. Shes still guilty, with her hands did it or not, in regard to baby Alex. Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. Search is on. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. They are a joke. Yes, that doesnt mean shes unquestionably guilty, but it does mean her case has been relatively exhaustively examined (and its not over) and it means that your assertion that you are right and the guilty camp are wrong (and that this should be obvious) is absurdly overplayed.
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